Red Mosquito

hlniv wrote:

whygodeepaz wrote:The headline makes it sound like this article is going to be tabloidish, but this actually is a really nice piece written by David Fricke with new interviews from a bunch of people in his orbit:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/featu ... ys-w484560

Nice article

Really beautiful. Thanks.

doone wrote:

hlniv wrote:

whygodeepaz wrote:The headline makes it sound like this article is going to be tabloidish, but this actually is a really nice piece written by David Fricke with new interviews from a bunch of people in his orbit:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/featu ... ys-w484560

Nice article

Really beautiful. Thanks.

Yeah, this was good.

hlniv wrote:

whygodeepaz wrote:The headline makes it sound like this article is going to be tabloidish, but this actually is a really nice piece written by David Fricke with new interviews from a bunch of people in his orbit:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/featu ... ys-w484560

Nice article

Man, he was making a covers album too in addition to new SG. Shit. Honestly I'm still in disbelief myself

stip wrote: I love Pearl Jam in part because their music grew past those themes. Themes of alienation became social and political, or personal in a way that reflects a life being lived. When there was a grievance it was a grievance with the world, rather than sullen personal, static, experience. And the best songs were inspirational - reflecting a desire for a better life. They were written from a place of wisdom and experience - from someone who completed their journey and made it out alive, rather than from someone still stuck on the long, lonely road. And even if I preferred the songs written on the road, I was glad that they moved past it. The fact that they grew, that they weren't stuck in that moment, made those earlier moments feel more authentic - an important piece of a larger, more vivid picture. A central chapter in a complex and moving arc, rather than the entirety of the story itself. It's why a middle aged album like Lightning Bolt, filled with middle aged themes like love, fear of loss, fear for the world we leave behind, both resonant with me and make the earlier work simultaneously more vital.

yes

96583UP wrote:

stip wrote: I love Pearl Jam in part because their music grew past those themes. Themes of alienation became social and political, or personal in a way that reflects a life being lived. When there was a grievance it was a grievance with the world, rather than sullen personal, static, experience. And the best songs were inspirational - reflecting a desire for a better life. They were written from a place of wisdom and experience - from someone who completed their journey and made it out alive, rather than from someone still stuck on the long, lonely road. And even if I preferred the songs written on the road, I was glad that they moved past it. The fact that they grew, that they weren't stuck in that moment, made those earlier moments feel more authentic - an important piece of a larger, more vivid picture. A central chapter in a complex and moving arc, rather than the entirety of the story itself. It's why a middle aged album like Lightning Bolt, filled with middle aged themes like love, fear of loss, fear for the world we leave behind, both resonant with me and make the earlier work simultaneously more vital.

yes

takeaway: the long lonely road of life experience leads to a boring grave of dadness

Which song best encapsulates the thrilling highs of the PTA meeting or buying your first minivan?

this one

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

96583UP wrote:

stip wrote: I love Pearl Jam in part because their music grew past those themes. Themes of alienation became social and political, or personal in a way that reflects a life being lived. When there was a grievance it was a grievance with the world, rather than sullen personal, static, experience. And the best songs were inspirational - reflecting a desire for a better life. They were written from a place of wisdom and experience - from someone who completed their journey and made it out alive, rather than from someone still stuck on the long, lonely road. And even if I preferred the songs written on the road, I was glad that they moved past it. The fact that they grew, that they weren't stuck in that moment, made those earlier moments feel more authentic - an important piece of a larger, more vivid picture. A central chapter in a complex and moving arc, rather than the entirety of the story itself. It's why a middle aged album like Lightning Bolt, filled with middle aged themes like love, fear of loss, fear for the world we leave behind, both resonant with me and make the earlier work simultaneously more vital.

yes

takeaway: the long lonely road of life experience leads to a boring grave of dadness

Ya know, that may be meant as a snarky comment, but fuck it, I am a dad. As are a huge % of PJ fans. This shit is a joke to alot of people, but it's still authentic stuff. May not be very "Rock n Roll", but PJ has never shied away from being uncool. This is never a band that was very good at being cool in that old school rock n roll sense. It's just not them. The theme of the band at this point is survival. Survival from imminent death. It's how the band started, how the band got through the hard times like Roskilde, and onward. I really think about people like Matt. Ed is blessed to be able to have people focus on his lyrics and his emotiveness. He's actually at an advantage. Matt is the drummer. Essentially it's a role mean to support the emotional weight of the bands he plays in. I hope he gets to express himself properly to fans through his music somehow.

As for the RS article, it just adds to the puzzlement for me. He was doing fine, it seems like it. The more and more I think about it, the more it seems like a completely avoidable freak accident. Like maybe he slipped up for a moment, but it really feels more and more senseless to me.

oh my god that is such a dad response

LoathedVermin72 wrote:oh my god that is such a dad response

I'm a dad, so fuck it.

banging on drums for two plus hours must be cathartic af

Pearl Jam was plenty cool when the music didn't suck.

You guys aren't even honoring Chris Cornell anymore. Jerks have turned this into a pearl jam debate

Off (Topic) He Goes

@SkitchP wrote:You guys aren't even honoring Chris Cornell anymore. Jerks have turned this into a pearl jam debate

We're dragging down his competition to make him look better. I can think of no better way to honor his memory.

BurtReynolds wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:You guys aren't even honoring Chris Cornell anymore. Jerks have turned this into a pearl jam debate

We're dragging down his competition to make him look better. I can think of no better way to honor his memory.

I'd prefer we respectfully post more bikini pics of the deceased's wife.

Bi_3 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:You guys aren't even honoring Chris Cornell anymore. Jerks have turned this into a pearl jam debate

We're dragging down his competition to make him look better. I can think of no better way to honor his memory.

I'd prefer we respectfully post more bikini pics of the deceased's wife.

I would but the rest of them on the Google search I did all looked about the same. Chris was in some of them shirtless so I stayed away from those.

Eerie interview (in hindsight) with Chris from Melody Maker in 1994:

http://web.stargate.net/soundgarden/art ... 9-94.shtml

"Fell on Black Days" was like this ongoing fear I've had for years ... It's a feeling that everyone gets. You're happy with your life, everything's going well, things are exciting—when all of a sudden you realize you're unhappy in the extreme, to the point of being really, really scared. There's no particular event you can pin the feeling down to, it's just that you realize one day that everything in your life is fucked!"

Is this what happened in the hotel room in Detroit? Except he was perhaps over-medicated too which ultimately led to his downfall? Maybe the meds clouded his judgement. Cornell certainly seemed very happy with his life in 2017.

This quote from Sean Kinney in the Rolling Stone article has really stuck with me:

"I have a lot of experience with what's going on here," Kinney says of Cornell's passing. "Every time they write about your band from now on, it will always be there: 'X died.' I just go to the music and what's left. We're lucky that we have that."

He's right. It's going to be nigh-on impossible now to read anything about Soundgarden without mention of "Cornell's tragic demise" or similar; that disproportionate morbidity is something that really grates me about coverage of Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Joy Division, etc and it's a real bummer that Soundgarden are forever now in the same boat.

Birds in Hell wrote:This quote from Sean Kinney in the Rolling Stone article has really stuck with me:

"I have a lot of experience with what's going on here," Kinney says of Cornell's passing. "Every time they write about your band from now on, it will always be there: 'X died.' I just go to the music and what's left. We're lucky that we have that."

He's right. It's going to be nigh-on impossible now to read anything about Soundgarden without mention of "Cornell's tragic demise" or similar; that disproportionate morbidity is something that really grates me about coverage of Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Joy Division, etc and it's a real bummer that Soundgarden are forever now in the same boat.

yeah, i get what sean says...Cantrell quotes in the article are also very good. For me, its doesnt really change anything...Its just sad because SG had more music in them.